Talk: Gate Alliance Treaty

List of signature countries[]

I suggest to make a list of countries known to have signed the Gate Alliance Treaty be listed on this article. —Unsigned comment by 124.186.29.58 (talk • contribs).

That's a good idea, actually. I think I'll start one. Primary signatories will of course be the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council: USA, RUS, UK, FRA, CHI - Bell'Orso 16:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey everyone, a lot of pages will cease to exist. Any countries listed as a member of the GAT that have no other signifance in the story shall be merged into this article. note Egypt, Germany & The 5 permeanent U.N Security Council members are among, but the only safe countries under this plan.

Portugal, Zimbabwé & the nation I live in Australia will be among the countries merged into Gate Alliance Treaty. Chevron 7 08:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

No, those countries could still have additional information to cover, other than the Atlantis expedition. If the countries exist, then they get their own page. See also Talk:Mexico and Talk:Italy. Plus, I find it weird that an Australian would want to rid the Australia page. -- Matthew R Dunn 11:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

merger plan[]

The following countries keep their existing page:

The following countries are to have their page merged with the Gate Alliance Treaty page.

Chevron 7 08:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

We do not delete or merge pages just because they are not significant. If they have been mentioned or shown in the show (or any spinoff material) then they should keep their own pages, regardless of the fact that many of them will just say that "X is a member of the Gate Alliance Treaty". —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 19:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

What is this based on...?[]

I was just wondering how do we know that these countries are all involved in the Stargate program? Is it just because their citizens appear on the show? If so, how can we know for sure that the citizens are in fact working for their own governments? I.E. Rodney's Canadian, but he works for the U.S. Air Force not his own government - how do we know that's not the case for a lot of these people? 216.15.41.45 23:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

What is the Source for this?[]

I've never heard of this treaty from the two sources given on the page and I never remember seeing any other sign of it. Jordan Edmond (talk) 21:08, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

According to Jaymach, the references come from "The Scourge" and "Morpheus" Jordan Edmond (talk)

The Quote in The Scourge is as follows

SHEN "In the three years since our nations signed the Gate Alliance Treaty, your government (USA), has made great strides in the field of military technology but left us out in the cold."

And the one from Morpheus is as follows

WOOLSEY "Just a little...insight into the weekly goings on here at Stargate Command. You see, despite the fact that all the signatories to the Gate Alliance Treaty are de facto partners in the Stargate program, my employers are often left...out of the loop when it comes to the more sensitive developments here on the base. We'd just like you to keep us...updated, is all." Jordan Edmond (talk) 03:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Rewrite plan for the page based on the two available sources[]

Let me know what you think of it, but basiclly my thoughts are to remove anything that isn't confirmed by the two sources or anything that is generally "assumed" beyond the fact that other members did join after the Battle of Antarctica, though I would recommend that we pull the section listing off members of the treaty as we have no way of knowing if they are present representing their own government or if they are simply employees of the US Government like both McKay and Zelenka, about the only ones we may be able to specifically include are those with military personnel in Atlantis.

Original[]

Gate Alliance Treaty was the agreement between the five permanent members of the UN Security Council United States of America, People's Republic of China, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and French Republic . (SG1: "Disclosure")

It later included nations that have sent personnel to Atlantis. (SGA: "Rising")

The Agreement specifies that any knowledge learned from travel to other planets will be openly shared with all signing countries.

Planned Replacement[]

Gate Alliance Treaty was the agreement signed between the five permanent members of the UN Security Council United States of America, People's Republic of China, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and French Republic in 2003 (SG1: "Disclosure") with more members joining after the Battle of Antarctica.

The signatories of the treaty are defacto partners in the Stargate Program, and while the members receive regular briefings on what is discovered, (SG1: "Morpheus") members do not appear to be required to share technologies that they develop from their studies. (SG1: "The Scourge")

Removed during rewrite[]

These nations patches were only seen on civilian personnel, as such not all of their governments may be apart of the treaty

Sources for the Gate Alliance Treaty[]

SG1: Chain Reaction[]

MAYBOURNE The Pentagon forced the Russians to deep-six their Gate in exchange for continued sharing of information and technology.

SG1: 48 Hours[]

DANIEL Look. All I'm saying is, they did what we asked them to fix. Now, all they're asking in return is what we already promised to give them.

DAVIS I'm sure the room is bugged, but it doesn't matter. They already know everything we're talking about. And they might as well know that we are never going to be turning over refined weapon grade naquadah. DANIEL I'm talking about naquadah generator technology. A clean and safe source of power. DAVIS Which requires refined naquadah to work. Doctor Jackson, you of all people realize the explosive power of the material. DANIEL Yes, so they could blow us up two hundred times over instead of just one hundred. What difference does it make? DAVIS The difference is it would only take one nuke to get through our anti-ballistic shield to do it. One! DANIEL The point is that you already owe them generator technology anyway, along with everything else we found using the Stargate. DAVIS No, no, no. The point is we are not giving them the generator technology and they're not giving us the DHD. DANIEL Can't you stipulate that we supervise how the naquadah is used? They want to monitor our use of the gate. Jordan Edmond (talk) 21:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)