Fuel for the Asgards' reactors Edit
I dispute the idea that the core would consume neutronium.
THOR: Orilla is rich in neutronium, which is a key element in Asgard technology.
8.01 New Order Part I
So we know that Stargate SG-1's fictional neutronium is behind most of the Asgard technology, but it was never described as a source of energy. More likely, it's part of the hardware.
I offer a few quick thoughts about the possible mechanics behind the neutrino-ion reactor technology in my Gateworld post in the Neutrino Ion Generators - better than ZPMs? thread.
First because while having been presented as a rather tough element, neutronium has never displayed the extremely high (and CoE breaking) energy densities of naqahdah. Secondly because neutrino could refer to various aspects of the reactor's hardware. For example, if ion refers to artificial suns maintained within those reactors, neutrino could refer to the action of capturing the neutrinos produced by the fusion reactions, and exploiting their energy, in addition to the other forms of radiations.
The other problem is the formulation
the writers Thor used. He mentions joules, without specifying the time. When you speak about the production capacity of a power source, you use watts, as for power, with one watt = one joule per second.
It may also lack the possible reference of density, as x joule per unit of fuel consumer per engine/reactor. Or x joule per unit of volume, the volume being that of the reactor's chamber. -- Mister Oragahn 23:29, 03 June 2008 (UTC)
- I kind of agree on this in the sense that I think the neutronium comment should be removed unless its stated in some source. As far as I understood it, neutronium is a metal not a power source. Its like saying currently we power ships by using steel or iron. But anything else should be left in italics and stated to be speculation as nothing on the show indicates how the generators work exactly.
- Also, this is a minor thing but, can you sign comments you have made while on a talk page? It just helps determine who was speaking. Done it for you now but just saying for the future. -- Darth Batrus 14:44, 04 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, sorry, I'm still getting used to all the wiki tags. ^-^
- You've done a great job here, and a SG wiki was much needed. There's already another one, but it's missing information.
- So the next question is, what do we do with the page's content. I think we should present the facts, and then allow a bit of extrapolation and theories, presented as such (no inuendo), and let the reader make up his mind.
- I don't want to start editing stuff until we're in agreement. Besides, I'm fresh here, and though I have already spend years talking about the technical specificities of Stargate, I don't want to force my way.
- What do you think?Mister Oragahn 18:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think the answer to that question really lies to some of the higher ups, maybe Jaymach or SFH who can probably decide on that more then myself. I think the general policy with a wiki is you present the facts only and speculation is somewhat left out of it though you can make a mention of it as long as its clearly shown that it is speculation. What I do is I put a sentence in italics to show its speculation.
- Example being like this: Lord Zipacna invaded the Tok'ra homeworld in order to obtain the symbiote poison under the orders of Anubis. However, Lantesh in his new host body waited till his Jaffa armies approached before releasing it thus killing them.
- Presumably, Zipacna himself died as a result of the symbiote poison.
- I think thats the policy with very short speculation or a paragraph at most but nothing too big. Not the expert on this but just thought I would comment on it.-- Darth Batrus 22:44, 04 June 2008 (UTC)
- Seems right to me. So we're going to have to deal with "neutronium fuel" claim at some point. Man, there's quite a lot of work. I may know a few persons who might be interested in providing more information. Mister Oragahn 11:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- The Neutronium claim might come from one of the official stargate magazines but I don't have access to those so am not sure. Personally, I don't think neutronium powers anything but serves as a metal like trinium. But anyway if more people are interested in contributing then sure invite them along. I think there is plenty of stuff that can be added to the wiki still. -- Darth Batrus 18:15, 05 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well first, I'm not sure about the canonicity of the official magazine. As far as Stargate canon, an official product isn't immediately canon. Which reminds me that we do need a canon page, at least. Therefore, and until it's been proven correct, the neutronium = fuel claim will remain incorrect. Mister Oragahn 21:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
amount of nutronium Edit
How much nutronium do you think a generator needs to output at max.
- As Jack O'Neill would say, "Lots". I really couldn't even begin to guess though.—Anubis 10545 19:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
first of all..naquadah generators, naquadah is a power source, sort of, aswell as a metal.
just think of these generators as naquahdah generators but replace naquadah with neutronium . its possible that neutronium generators started off the same way as naquadah generators—SupremeCommander 20:12, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well, just think of a car battery and a AAA one. Just because they work similarly doesn't mean they're the same size... That might not be the best example though. The point is... well, look at this image:. That doesn't look like a naquadah generator. We have no way of knowing how that device is structured (among other things)....—Anubis 10545 00:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know how "one can assume, by [the reactor's] name, that it works in a manner similar to the naquadah generators of the Tau'ri, but instead of naquadah it uses an unknown material which was later changed to use the more unstable naquadria."
- Huh, what would that similar manner be? The statement made on the page is absolute fanon. Also, check the Gateworld thread linked to at the top of this discussion page, you'll see much more logical suggestions as to how this reactor might work. And don't forget, they're fanon as well. Someone should remove the baseless speculation from the article.
- Besides, if we really have to consider the idea that it runs on naqahdria (and then that means very very high power rates), then I may slip in my theory on the subject, which goes as: the reactor produces super hot plasma volumes out of the fuel (that's for the ions) and we can consider that the reaction may release copious amounts of neutrinos (among other particles easier to catch), which would carry energy away and then be considered waste (as in a stellar fusion reaction, the waste is truly massive, and it takes huge amounts of dense matter of stop neutrinos). Therefore, a shell of scifi "neutronium" would help, perhaps along some forcefield, to capture those high energy neutrinos and absorb their energy, in order to reduce the waste. That's a suggestion I made, but it's still fanon nonetheless. --Mister Oragahn (talk) (Contribs) 04:13, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
Power Generation Edit
I noticed the other page, for the Beliskiner, has it as KJ/ms, Thor was interupted by Jack, I'm curious if its possible to make out the word's of Thor's/(Micheal Shanks) voice behind Jack's, but I cannot do it just by listening to it on DVD. I was wondering if someone else managed to hear exactly what was said by Thor, or if this came from a script, possibly some other source, and should this also be added to this page. 126.96.36.199 01:03, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
Isn't the picture used on this article the picture of the Bilskirnir bridge?