Talk:Prometheus

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Contents 1 Minimum crew 2 F-302 Compliment 3 Merge 4 Weaponry 5 speed 6 Disclosure

[edit] Minimum crew

The minimum crew value of 20 seems a bit high, given that the Air Force was willing to let it be commanded by only 8 people in Ripple Effect, and it was piloted by just one person in Grace. You may also note that when they first field tested the hyperdrive the core was so unstable they had to eject it and make an emerngcey landing. — Nundin shan 20:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

i'm pretty sure the minimum crew is atmost 4. in the first episode where promethus is flown to help the asgard, only sg-1 in on the ship flying it—SupremeCommander 21:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] F-302 Compliment

If there are only 8 F-302s (4 per hangar), howcome in Ethon you can see 5 F-302s come out of 1 hangar?-Ascended 999 10:28, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I wondered that myself. It's likely a mistake because it has been mentioned several times that 303s can only carry 8.—Anubis 10545 16:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

I vote to have this article as well as X-303 merged into 303, the reasons being that

1.: there is only one ship of this type, the Prometheus herself, and 2.: towards the end of its career, Prometheus was definitely not in experimental stage anymore, as it was referred to as BC 303.

Now since the BC 304s are also just referred to as 304s on this wiki, the X designation should be dropped and the article on the ship be made a subsection of the article on the type. - Bell'Orso 17:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I kind of support this merging. How about we move everything relating to the history from the X-303 article to Prometheus. But on the X-303 article, leave info about weapons, the ship's design, layout... Sort of like the 304 article.—Anubis 10545 23:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't think Prometheus and X-303 should be merged as X-303 is the class and Prometheus is a member of that class. I do, however, think BC-303 and X-303 should be merged into 303, like the article for 304.--Ascended 999 11:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Weaponry

In episode 14 of season 8, "Full Alert", the Prometheus is seen destroying an Al-kesh with what clearly looks like bolts of orange energy. As such, a change in the armament section to include Goa'uld energy weapons should be done. —Unsigned comment by 139.168.131.212 (talk • contribs).

Bolts of orange energy could be anything. That's like trying to identify a sidearm through muzzle flash alone. Granted, different sidearms have differing muzzle flashes by which they MAY be identified (if only upon MUCH closer than mere VISUAL inspection), just like different energy weapons have differing vfx, but what is to say that this isn't simply some other, human-developped (experimental?) energy weapon that simply looks (and maybe also operates) remarkably LIKE Goa'uld weaponry? Or maybe it's a Tok'ra invention! Could be anything, really. - Bell'Orso 13:57, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

On the episode Disclosure when Thor beams into the meeting, he says he was going to install Asgard based hyperdrives, shields, and weapons on Prometheus. However, we never see these weapons on Prometheus and apparently they never exist. But, the episode Full Alert is a plot hole (or something like that). I'll guessing what Prometheus fires is an Asgard energy weapons... but the writers later took it out (for whatever reason). Probably so it wouldn't make the Tau'ri too powerful. So, we shouldn't include that it had an energy weapon as it only appeared in one episode and the Tau'ri were never supposed to get Asgard weapons until Unending.—Anubis 10545 17:47, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

If someone could provide a picture i'm sure an agreement can be reached. User:Phoenix304

I can. Unfortunately that's the best one I could find. You can tell it's an energy weapon a lot better if you watch that scene in the show though.—Anubis 10545 18:28, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I have found a youtube video that contains a brief clip of the scene. The video's just below.--Ascended 999 11:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

In regard to Anubis 10545's comment, please note that Asgard weapons fire blue bolts (and later, blue rays), not orange. —Unsigned comment by 139.168.131.212 (talk • contribs).

Please note that they can be any color they want to be. Maybe they were a slightly different design. Keep in mind, they invented "Beam" weapons and "Bolt" weapons. So, all of their weapons don't have to be the same design or color... (that being blue). Also, the Asgard energy weapon they fired through the Stargate in Ripple Effect wasn't blue.—

Anubis 10545 02:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

They look like missiles to me.

They kind of did, but their rate of fire and their speed are too quick to be missiles.—Anubis 10545 04:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Missiles are self propelled, they dont really have a rate of fire, just a reload time. And they can be quite fast so they could be missiles Sman789 15:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

It is possible that it is a finished version of the weapon designed by Jay Felger in Avenger 2.0. It was stated they would be outfitted on the X-303. The energy burst fired is not dissimilar to that of Felger's weapon.--Ascended 999 11:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

The Prometheus may or may not contain energy weapons as Stargate SG-1: The DVD Collection issue 2 claims it has 'lasers' in the bow of the ship. This may or may not be true as it has never been confirmed in the show.--Ascended 999 11:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

It is definitely not true. The show supersedes the magazine in this case. Saying the Prometheus has a "Lazer Battery" makes a much sense in the Stargate universe as saying it has Photon torpedoes. Well it may never have been disproven, it sure as heck has never been proven.—Anubis 10545 09:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Then would you care to explain why the Laser Battery is also shown to exist on the ship in Stargate SG-1: The Ultimate Visual Guide, written by Kate Ritter who runs the lexicon the shows writers use, and is also on the replica Prometheus plans which can be purchased from Legends Memorabilia here which are an exact replica of the plans drawn up for use in the show? 194.75.128.200 12:53, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, look. I'm saying that the "Lazer battery" has NEVER been used in the show and it almost COMPLETELY contradicts the show's cannon. As this is the case, the show CLEARLY supersedes those sources. NOT ONE TIME have we seen the Prometheus fire "Lazers" in the show. And maybe the person who designed the Prometheus for the show was ill informed and made a mistake. That mistake could have gotten out of control to the point where several sources say it does have Lazers... but that doesn't mean it's true. On this wiki, we will NEVER include that the Prometheus has "Lazers".—Anubis 10545 18:30, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

This article also contradicts the X-303 article by claiming it has 24 Railguns whereas the X-303 article claims it only has 16. Is there any evidence on what number of Railguns the ship has and then the two articles can be matched.--Ascended 999 11:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

It is possible that after the Prometheus' refit, more railguns were installed.—Anubis 10545 00:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Do any of u remember da weapons on (SG1: "Full Alert") dat seems to be energy weapons?

ok, i'll end this argument. watch full alert. i distinctly remember seeing a missle hit the alkesh. the one in the video might be another episode. not sure tho. i don't remmeber that part in full alert but i actually remember seeing a close-up view of the alkesh being hit by 2 missles and it being destroyed.—SupremeCommander 21:37, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] speed

Is the 110,000 miles per second for sublight. It better be or the magazine got it way way off.

Yrs.—Anubis 10545 07:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

does Yrs mean years or was it a typo and meen yes.

Yes... it was a typo. I meant yes :). —Anubis 10545 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Disclosure

I actually hate to take up this topic again, but anyway. Earlier today I watched Disclosure again and I made an interesting note. Somewhere in the later part of the episode when Thor came to defend Hammond, one of the ambassadors said: "You came all this way just to tell us that?" To which Thor responded: "And to install Asgard designed shields and weapons on the Prometheus". So the Asgard installed Asgard weapons on the Promethues. The question is: What weapons?—Swedish guy 17:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I know. But, they always could have retaken the weapons. It is likely a plot hole.—Anubis 10545 18:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

It could also have been a bluff/exaggeration formulated by Hammond and Thor to get everyone to leave the gate in control of USAF. Cmantito 16:25, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

well it is possible that he went and asked thor to come here and make a bluff about giving them weapons and shields for the promethus but then thor decided to actually give the promethus an asgard designed shield but left out weapons cuz they didn't want them to have any asgard weapons. either a bluff or a change of mind. cuz i do know that the promethus has asgard shielding and i remember o'neill sayign at some point that he and thor were going to see the president about what they can receive from the asgard.but i'm not sure that jack was a colonel at the time or a general. if he was a general then obviously the promethus didn't get the shields during hammond's time. oh and general hammond seemed to know that thor was coming so he prolly set it up himself but thor decided to give them shields.—SupremeCommander 21:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)