Talk:Ra
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Is the image used on this page Public Domain? --CocoaZen 05:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Please join the mailing list - i've asked Angela about what image copyrights are acceptable, but she's not around at the moment. I'm guessing that one would be fair use, if possible. Alphax 08:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Do whatever you want --SGCommand
- Discussion on this topic of image permissions continued on SGCommand_talk:Copyrights. --CocoaZen 11:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- cough* Nearly everything on this page is crap. The Stargate SG-1 RPG books are NOT canon. This needs an overhaul.
- I'm afraid that the Stargate SG-1 roleplaying books are considered canon, and so everything on this page is valid. If you have a problem with this, then you'll have to take it up with both MGM and the writers of the show, who are the people that approved the information written in the RPG books. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 06:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Ra with an Asgard host
Absolute nonsense. Nothing in the SG-1 TV series suggests that. The movie shows "a grey" (generic "Alien") as the original host. From whence comes "Farmir" being Ra's host? Ridiculous. I wager a dollar that it's from the frankly-ridiculous RPG stuff that the owner of this site is far too in love with. 81.102.65.219 13:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Technically, the Grey wasn't the original host, but Ra himself. 64.180.93.200 00:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
That is true; the being was meant to be the alien Ra himself. He possessed the boy by using a technology in his possession to take the body in a manner similar to a parasite entering and attaching itself to a host organism. Note that this is an analogy to give an idea on how the alien actually took the body.
It was an artificial process, and given its parasite-like nature, it was most likely very physical and involving some sort of energy/energized effect applied on the alien so he could merge himself with a compatible being, which in turn could easily be maintained by the sarcophagus, which in turn would keep him alive.
All of this was rendered irrelevant when Devlin and Emmerich sold the rights to MGM, who wanted to make a TV show sequel. Devlin and Emmerich had a little tantrum over this and abandoned the franchise, and Wright and Glassner take over instead. They revised everything, since the original story didn't suit their purposes nor would have worked in the type of TV series they wanted to make. That is why we have the Goa'uld and their empire, the character changes, and everything else that we know as Stargate today. --Exalted Obliteration 19:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- If the original Stargate story didn't suit the type of series they wanted to make they they shouldn't have made a Stargate series at all. I think it's obvious that Wright & Glassner didn't really like the movie at all, but only liked the idea behind it, therefore they shouldn't have made an unfaithful spinoff in name only and instead made their own original series dealing with interstellar wormhole travel. 64.180.93.200 19:58, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Ra's Jaffa
In SG-1 Ra's Jaffa wear the normal grey armour and have the symbol on their foreheads, however in Stargate they wear whiteish, classic Egyptian clothes and have no symbol on their foreheads. Is this due to there being canonical differences between the film and the series or is it because after the uprising, Ra's Jaffa were all killed and he took humans, and made them his loyal soldiers? —Donovan-j-charlie 23:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
It is an artifact of Stargate before it was adapted and revised into a TV series format from a movie one. Many creative and canonical changes were made so SG-1 would work properly, though oddly enough, in "Children of the Gods", Jack says that he had never seen Jaffa before, and that the characters he encountered on Abydos were human. Either this is an oversight that is later corrected and retconned, or it is an indication of an unconventional practice of Ra's.
Goa'uld have high-ranking human servants called Lo'taurs, so perhaps Ra had decided to have a special group of these servants be trained and serve as warriors to accompany him on a routine and safe trip through his territories, while his conventional militarty forces, including his actual Jaffa, were elsewhere, fighting off the other System Lords.
Also, things like the Jaffa, the revised nature of the Goa'uld, etc. were meant to be new, and it was written and carried forward like that. If Ra's minions in the movie were meant to be Jaffa, the writers likely would have had Jack say that he recognized these warriors, save for differences in attire and armor, but he didn't. This website's entry on Ra corroborates this as well.
Given Ra's status, he wouldn't need to go around his secure and loyal territories with a fully-outfitted mothership and large numbers of Jaffa like the the other System Lords do. He also probably wanted to distinguish himself from the others as well, such as his choice of host, a number of his warriors, and practices like wearing a helmet mask of his own, which is an uncommon if never-used practice amongst the other Goa'uld.
Of course, this could all be wrong, and canonically the warriors with Ra would also be Jaffa, with the right Jaffa attire and armor, and it was simply an oversight early on the show that they weren't. --Exalted Obliteration 20:11, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- It's simply easier to see the movie and the multiple series as part of two seperate continuities. Less head - and heart - ache that way. 64.180.93.200 19:46, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] the grey
the "grey" was just the way daniel imagined it since he had never seen a goa'uld i like the movie stargate but the truth is the shows (exspecialy sg-1 ) are way better and are pretty accurate adaptations there are only very small ignorable differences--Xion1212 (talk) (Contribs) 23:05, November 10, 2009 (UTC) wich can all be reconciled.--Xion1212 (talk) (Contribs) 23:05, November 10, 2009 (UTC)xion1212
